Beyond The Reservoir
Welcome to the podcast where we connect you to the people and technology at SLB and go Beyond the Reservoir My name is Hunter Holtshopple, host of Beyond the Reservoir. I am excited to share with you the exciting people and technology that make up the team at Reservoir Performance team at SLB. My hope is that you leave having learned more about the guest and what we do in the energy industry
Beyond The Reservoir
Juan Rincon - Navigating Innovation and Balance in Product Management
Unlock the intricate world of product management with insights from Juan Rincon, Stimulation Product Manager at SLB's Reservoir Performance Team. Journey with us as Juan outlines his pivotal role in aligning new technology portfolios with both division and customer needs, ensuring their seamless integration into the market. We explore the synergy between research and development teams, highlighting the strategic importance of product management in driving innovation and achieving commercial success. Juan also shares his personal story, recounting his upbringing in San Cristobal, Venezuela, and reflecting on how his roots influence his values today. Our conversation reveals the understated yet powerful themes of community and adaptability, echoing through both personal and professional spheres.
Discover how the energy sector has transformed, particularly since the downturn of 2014, and the evolving role of product champions and innovative technologies at SLB. Juan provides a fresh perspective on transitioning from horsepower-driven to data-driven stimulation techniques, showcasing SLB's comprehensive value proposition. Beyond the professional realm, we discuss the balancing act between work and personal life, emphasizing the significance of family, hobbies, and passions such as Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and football. These discussions underscore the importance of maintaining a healthy balance for personal growth and mental well-being, especially within the demands of a global career. Tune in for an episode packed with wisdom, both practical and philosophical, as we explore the intersection of career achievement and personal fulfillment.
My name is Hunter Holtzapel, host of Beyond the Reservoir, and I'm excited to share with you the people and technology that make up the Reservoir Performance Team here at SLB. My hope is that you leave this episode having learned more about the guests and what they do in the energy industry and their career along the way. Today it is my pleasure to introduce Juan Rincon, stimulation Product Manager at RP. Juan, great to have you on. I'm excited for you to be here today.
Speaker 2:Excited for you to be here today. Hey Hunter, how are you? I'm also very excited to be with you here today, looking forward to it.
Speaker 1:Perfect. Yes, I'm doing well and I'm excited for this episode and I'm glad that you were, you know one. We were, you know, working together just a few weeks ago at the Customer Advisory Board in Paris and were able to discuss the podcast and able then to set this up to talk about you and your career.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, Absolutely. I heard about this great initiative. I've heard more than two or three podcasts with one of our colleagues and I really, really was looking forward to it. I think it's a great initiative and an opportunity to get to know, you know, a bit more about people who makes the company what it is today. Right, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the intention of it and I'm excited for people to hear a little bit more about you beyond just what they could look up in your profile or LinkedIn or CMP. So, product manager for Stimulation, can you explain a little bit more about that role, what it is and maybe the difference between that, and maybe like a product champion or for those outside of SME, or a product owner?
Speaker 2:Absolutely absolutely. Product manager's responsibilities are two. One is make sure that the new technology portfolio is in good shape and is aligned with the division and customer drive in the regions and basically the new technology portfolio is successful and makes a difference in the day-to. My perspective of the role is the opportunity to steer the new product development on the simulation side, the strategy and coming up with this portfolios or technologies that are going to shape the industry for the next two or three or four years. And that's the funnest part the opportunity to interact with the R&D teams and the geo units and interchange ideas and concepts. And seeing that come from, you know, from the cradle to the grave, is fantastic. So the portfolio manager is basically responsible to make sure that those two aspects of the business are in sync with the business and the market outlook and with the sales and commercial strategy of the division.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's a very vital role and I've gotten to experience a little taste of the work y'all do just through my role as Marcom and helping to promote the incredible work that the teams are doing in the product management group for RP. It's exciting. It's exciting to see how the process is, what's coming, what's new and really the drive that the team is doing to bridge what engineering is coming up with and marketing, and it's critical. One part you mentioned is the work with sales and commercial. I think you have some sales experience. I do as well, uh, but, but creating the newest widget is one thing, but if no one wants to buy it and sales can't sell it, it doesn't really mean anything. So, uh, I really like that. Um. So, yeah, very cool, very, very interesting role and and, uh, you know, I'm glad I could share a little bit more about it. So we're going to switch gears a little bit, you know, just to more talk about you and your background. Can you tell us where you're from and what life was like growing up?
Speaker 2:Sure, sure. I'm from Venezuela, from a relatively small city in the southwest of the country called San Cristobal, and growing up in San Cristobal was fantastic. I think it's kind of the right balance of size and culture that kind of allowed me to grow in an environment where I didn't really have to change much of schools. You know, very, very kind of small community driven kind of childhood. You know, I basically my friends today are kind of the same friends I had when I was growing up in Venezuela and it kind of reaffirmed that sense of community and friendships that I really enjoy today. It's really good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's amazing, it's really good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1:I think sometimes a lot of people are quick to say or can say childhood doesn't necessarily define us, which I think is true, but it also very much can have a big impact on our lives and leaving a lasting impression. I think it's awesome that you mentioned the school thing, awesome that you know you mentioned the, the, uh, the schools, the thing. I mean it sounds like you were in one spot and you never really had to move, which, as uh we know, is maybe not the case for us and our kids, uh, with, with, uh, a career in SLB, um, but I know that that that can be very important and really just the community aspect and we're um, you know, my wife and I are working on building community in Katy, uh, texas, houston, um, and and know that that can be very important for the kids. Uh, so very cool that it's still with you today. I mean the fact that you mentioned you have childhood friends that you still talk to, uh, I feel like in this day and age, is is rare and good. That's very cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it is, it is, it is. It's actually a good point, the one you bring, hunter, because the lifestyle of my children is significantly different from mine, right? So we are always kind of my wife and I were always calibrated and trying to try to not get too worried about our kids are not really spending much time in one city or one school, and it's. It's a different dynamic, you know, and, and with time we had sort of realized that that is okay and they're actually developing a lot of uh, attributes and and competencies that we didn't have. My eldest kid goes anywhere. He makes friends as easy, as you know. That's not my case. I struggle to do that. So it's interesting to see how different their lives and the shadows are from the ones that we live. It's such a good point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely, I can totally understand that where, like you're, you know, almost forced to develop skills, it's just different. But I think with us as parents, really we lay a good foundation. It can be here, it can be in wherever, as long as we're keeping that good foundation. Yeah, tell me a little bit how you went from childhood in Venezuela to SLB. I mean, I assume there are a couple steps in between, and then you probably had a similar recruiting process as myself and others on the show, but maybe I don't know, did you know about SLB prior to joining or were you totally taken by surprise when you were coming out of university?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know it was completely taken by surprise, Hunter. It's interesting, you know, in this I'm a mechanical engineer, so I never really thought about ending in the oil and gas or energy industry. You know, I envision myself working in, you know, different companies, probably a turbines manufacturer, GE, best case scenario. But at some point, when I was about to get into my internships, someone suggested me to apply for an internship in PDVSA, which is a national company in Venezuela, and that's where things kind of changed. You know, I was selected and I overnight had to get up into, jump into a bus to cross the entire country for 23 hours and start next Monday in a little town in the other side of the country. And that's where I was kind of introduced to the energy world. And from that point onwards my life changed. You know, I got to know what Sloan BG at the time was and obviously other companies, and I really liked the Stromboli culture, the kind of people they were bringing to the offices.
Speaker 2:It's very diverse, different nationalities and you know, you interchange stories and interact with them, and it was fascinating, you know, just to see this 26, 27 years old ladies and gentlemen, and they had gone to three or four countries already. It was truly fascinating, and when I came back to finalize my degree, I kind of knew that I wanted to work for Columbia.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's amazing I mean the comment seeing 24, 25, 26-, 26 year olds I mean at that point could possibly be FSM running a business. I mean it's a pretty major. Like you said, seeing different countries. I mean I uh traveled a little bit when, you know, grew up in California, went to school in Wisconsin, but it was all us. I mean that's not very big moves. It was all US. I mean that's not very big moves.
Speaker 1:And then, you know, joining SLB and getting the chance to travel all over the world when young and like managing crews, and that's pretty wild stuff, pretty, pretty great, pretty impressive. Like you said, it's very eye opening. And you know, for some people like us it sticks. And now here we are, a few years later, still still at the company, but quite a bit different perspective of course. Can you share, kind of, how you got to, you know, briefly, from the, you know, engineer, field engineer, junior field engineer it sounds like in Venezuela, to where you are now in Houston, because I know it wasn't just a linear path from here to there?
Speaker 2:Oh no, no, definitely not. It was very dynamic. I started as a field engineer in my home country, moved through different locations in Venezuela until I got into my kind of a GFE general field engineer for those who are not familiar with terminology which is probably three years down the road. And then I was given the opportunity to move to a different country, which was completely unexpected. My first letter of assignment was for Lima, Peru, and it was kind of a startup of the stimulation business in the country, Very challenging assignment, and I moved there as kind of a sales and commercial manager for the region. We had a fantastic, fantastic tenure with a couple of customers there and then I was given the opportunity to move into a bigger role in Mexico at the time as a successful commercial manager for the geo market at the time.
Speaker 2:And if you think about those two places, I was very lucky to be in probably a couple of the best places in the world when it comes to food. But career, professional, professional, career wise that was a very, very fulfilling experience. You know we had a great time in Mexico, fantastic collaborations with the customer in Mexico, Fantastic collaborations with the customer, and I think things went well enough that the company decided to give me the opportunity to move to headquarters and kind of understand a bit better how the company works as a product champion for Highway at the time, and from there it's been very dynamic. I've changed not only functions but divisions couple of times. I move into supply chain for more than four years and then I moved from well services at the time to drilling and then to production systems. So it's been super dynamic for the last seven years in the US to today, where I'm responsible for the simulation portfolio in RPS.
Speaker 1:Yeah, very cool. Yeah, I mean it's amazing to see the opportunity that we're given across location, across function, across division. I mean you mentioned a few different ones sales, uh, cross location, cross function, cross division. I mean you mentioned a few different ones sales, uh, operations, supply chain, uh, marketing. It's uh, it's great to to see that we can see, or we get the opportunity to see, different parts of the business and different aspects, uh, global, um, uh, regional, local, I mean it's, it's, it's truly amazing and, and you know, your career is the epitome of that. So very cool, um, uh. So you know, out of that entire time, uh, that you've been been uh with slb, uh, and looking back at that, can you, can you point to a role that you enjoyed the most and elaborate on? You know why, why it really left an impression on you?
Speaker 2:Sure, sure. I think the product champ the first tenure in headquarters was the one that I enjoyed the most. Hunter Coming to Houston as a product champion kind of blew my mind. It expanded completely my understanding of how the company and the industry works. As I mentioned, getting the opportunity to work with such a talented team. You get into a building and you have PhDs and very talented people exchanging ideas, very talented people exchanging ideas. The level of engagement was really, really high and I enjoyed the US as a product champion. We were going through probably one of the harshest downturns in the recent history of the energy sector. It was 2014. And what I thought it would be? A really nice ride of global conferences and technology deployments and shows, and it turned to be a very, very, very demanding exercise of basically reshaping our portfolio to a new reality. You know, and some people might agree, some might disagree, but I think that this is where we learn the most.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the product champion role is as you said. I mean it's very dynamic, just from the interactions I've had with product champions today, but it does seem, you know, for lack of a better term cool and I mean it's exciting. Maybe that's a better term. Um, what one thing, uh, I think you know, before we started recording, you mentioned highway. So, so, highway, uh, as part of the portfolio of yours, is product champion, um, which is having a bit of a resurgence today, right, uh, so that must be exciting to see. Um, you know it's still here and now it's, you know, only improving and getting better, I know you've been a part of that kind of relaunch as well.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, absolutely. Highway is one of those technologies that disrupted the industry and I'm super excited to see that we're taking Highway to the next level, you know, to really really expand the technology capabilities and reach to different locations, and customers are benefiting from that today that they wouldn't back in the days we're more of a mono approach. Now we have highway flex and that has really really opened the value, or democratized the value of highway to different customers. So it's close to my heart. You know I was a highway product champion and obviously I'm happy to see the resurgence of the technology and the way it's going today.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's also probably uh, pretty cool to see that you know the different kind of points in the cycle we are with with the technology and the adoption and the and stimulation in general. I mean, I know, uh, from from my, you know, a little bit of experience on on, uh, uh stimulation. I mean from the graphs and charts. And when I was doing market analyst here in the U S specifically, it was all about horsepower and how many pumps and fleets and and and all that. And now, uh, maybe we're getting a little more tact, tactful in our approach to stimulation and different techniques and, uh, you know, again, my minimal understanding when I was in that role is, like, you know, it's all about how hard you can pump and how much you can pump. And now it seems like, you know, people are using a little more data and making some more data-driven decisions, which is really cool. It's good for the evaluation folks like me as well. So good to hear, good to see as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they remind me of. It's been a journey, you know, for people like me. We started in a, in a completely different environment, where, where the the stimulation world was less of um less, less less of a horsepower story, it was more of a highly, highly complicated engineering approach where, if you made the wrong decision, you would basically screen out and derail the operations for customers. Not to say it's not the case, it's highly engineering and very complex as well, but it's as you mentioned, it's more of a horsepower story, and this is what we're trying to kind of highlight today. The value from SLB is that we're beyond horsepower right. We bring this engineering, workflows, technologies, modeling, all together. It's what I call total value or total service differentiation, and it's still making a difference.
Speaker 2:You know, we see that it still makes a difference.
Speaker 1:So yeah, it's very cool, yeah, it's exciting for sure. Now, transitioning a little bit away from, I guess, product champion and highway, we'll say you know you're currently a manager. This is kind of a two part question so hopefully I can ask them in clear ways. But currently you're a manager Instead of as much people. You're managing the portfolio, but you're still managing people to do the actions and things that you want for your portfolio. But in the past you've been a manager kind of in their career just starting out or aspiring manager. Advise someone who's managing people directly and then the other side. The other part of the question is do you have any advice for someone who's managing indirectly Also very important, but maybe not as much direct influence, but you still need to get them to do an action ultimately for you, but maybe for them as well. So can you give any advice on those two different types of managements and how to be effective at both?
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, great question, absolutely. I think that the first management scenario which can be defined as managed by direct reporting line or managed by authority is one, and the other one is managed by influence, right? It's a completely different scenario. I always, if I could give an advice to a new manager that is directly managing the team think about your role as a mentor, right, mentorship is one of my values. I have enjoyed mentorship throughout my career from different individuals in SLB, which I'm very grateful for, and they have taught me how relevant, how important it is to manage directly from that lens. If you're thinking you're preparing a younger talent to add value to the company and to become a better employee, better person and among other things and I would strongly suggest new managers to look at it as a mentor, you know.
Speaker 2:You're helping your employees to grow. You're trying to make sure that they are able to capture opportunities. You know, the worst thing that can happen as a manager is there's an opportunity and your employee your employees is not ready to jump into that train, right, yeah. So always think about it from that perspective and and be be fair. You know, be fair.
Speaker 2:Sometimes managing by authority my my goal, the wrong way. The reality is the in the energy world, things go around and around and around, and if you want to have a fruitful career, you have to be fair and as objective as you can. Now the other style is more difficult, right, because now you need to inspire, need to inspire and kind of bring everybody together and align the team with your vision and your objectives and their objectives. That's where your management skills are really, really tested. My advice to people, which is kind of my role I moved from a prior position 20 people directly or indirectly managing to today, which you know I need to. I have a way smaller team, but I need to manage my influences.
Speaker 2:How can you make sure that you communicate your vision and how that vision aligns with their own? Yeah, yeah, and how that vision aligns with their own? Yeah, if you're able to compel them into working together, into working in the same direction. It's never going to be perfect. People are going to work in slightly different directions, but the best recommendation I can give you is try to find what drives those functions and those teams and make sure that you align those drivers with yours and things are going to move along. Don't try to pull into your own direction all the time, because that's the bottom line from my perspective.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah. So, yeah, juan, great answer I, because that's that's the bottom line from my perspective. Okay, yeah, so yeah, uh, one great answer. I think I think that's uh very I mean, it's, it's a big part of my role, the the influence part, um, because, yeah, if it's only what I want, uh, I'm probably not going to get a lot of feedback. So, appreciate the answer. I'll even have to implement some of that myself. So, transitioning a little bit again, we talked about your career, which I think is very unique and interesting and hopefully people can learn something from it. But work is only probably almost a third of our lives. But work is only one component and for me, a big part of my life is my family and what I have outside of work. Can you share a little bit about what inspires you every day, what maybe inspires you to come to work and life a little bit outside of the working world?
Speaker 2:Sure, sure, sure. I mean what inspires me to come to work is kind of my purpose. You know, I think that we have the opportunity to make a difference in our communities. You know, as I mentioned participating in many of these initiatives, you know, united Way Y Seed back in Latin America. Sometimes we don't realize the impact of our actions. In a company like SLB, you know, this is the number one service company in the world. We operate in so many countries and that's relevant. Your purpose is to make sure that people get access to energy, affordable energy, and they can improve their lives or their livelihood. I think that's what drives me and what inspires me to come to work every day. I think that's my purpose in the energy industry.
Speaker 2:Now, outside of work, I am very family-oriented. I married my high school sweetheart. We've been together since we were probably 17 or 18, and we have three beautiful and healthy children. Um, and I'm I I like to spend most of my time with them. Uh, obviously, three is a handful. Uh, uh, we were. We were joking the other day with some colleagues that the world is is for family of four, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You have cars, hotels, and we're thinking about going into a business opportunity or startup, of creating a company that plans vacations for family of five, because it's time-consuming, it requires a lot of time. It's time consuming, it requires a lot of time, but I think family is a very important aspect of my life. But it's not all about family. I'm also adamant of things that I like to do. As a Venezuelan that grew up in a city that's borderline with Colombia, I'm a football soccer fan, I practice football every week and I follow vehemently my local team, deportivo Tachira. So kudos to that. And the coaches are listening to this podcast. I also like to do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Wow, and the coaches are listening to this podcast.
Speaker 2:I also like to do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Wow, and the way I found Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is a bit interesting. You know, I started Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu many, many years ago in my home country and I then quit for over a decade and I was trying to find a way to disconnect from the day to day hunter. And people suggest me you know why don't you just run, go and take a run? And I said, okay, I'm going to try it out. And I went running. I said you know I cannot disconnect. I'm thinking about you know I'm running, I'm thinking about my life and work and my mind is going at 200,000 RPM per second. I said this is not working. I said I'm going to play football. Okay, I disconnected, but I cannot play football every day. It's difficult to find the team. Then I said I'm going to come back to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. That's my therapy. You go into a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu academy, you enter into the mat and if you start thinking about something else, you get killed.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I completely disconnect. I try to do it every day and it also shows me another aspect of my community which is, you know, my neighbors, their livelihoods. There's a lot of veterans in the jiu-jitsu community, so it's not only the disconnect and the physical activities, the opportunity to know and interact with the community and neighbors. So I'm now very, very into Brazilian jiu-jitsu Hunter. Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:I'm now very, very into Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Hunter yeah that's awesome.
Speaker 1:Fitness has been a big part of my life in the last well, really since I left the field, so I can relate to that part, whether it be CrossFit or just lifting or riding the bike.
Speaker 1:Running I just don't really like. I'm not built for running, uh, uh, and I have the same thing where I run and I'm just thinking about, you know, work or whatever you know not. It doesn't really disconnect me, um. So that's, that's really cool, and I like what you said about, about family and also the fact that you know we also need time to do the things we, you know it's, it's family's huge for me as well, but I, you know, I need my passions and hobbies, whether that's photography or, you know, working out Um. I think that's so important Um. So I'm glad that you, you mentioned that Um, and, yeah, it's, it's great that you found that, that you know release or the way to kind of disconnect and reset Um, because I, you know that is so important to to. You know, keep, keep this the good work up. Um. So I'm glad you mentioned that as well and hopefully people can um find their own version of that, whether it's brazilian jiu-jitsu or otherwise, because it is such an important part um yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2:I always chat with my wife about the, the, the keeping, keeping. How many balls are we keeping in there? Yeah, and people have three, four, five different balls in there, and sometimes we just drop one and we focus on another one. As long as we are juggling them, it's okay. So juggling them is okay, but you cannot really drop your personal individual growth and desire, because it's not healthy from my perspective.
Speaker 1:So that's what Jiu-Jitsu and football gives me. Yeah, definitely yeah. And the other thing I learned is you know, don't mess with Juan, because you know Brazilian jiu-jitsu. Same thing with Simon, I guess Simon Ross does Muay Thai.
Speaker 2:So you know, between the two of you, you know, steer clear no, no, no, no, no, no. Muay Thai, I would say yes, but not jiu-jitsu, not.
Speaker 1:Brazilian jiu-jitsu. It's more of a defensive right, I mean. Uh, I used to watch not as much now my sister's really into it but um, ufc, ufc man the.
Speaker 1:BJJ folks they they, they do really well. Uh, it's cool, um, so, so yeah, I guess. Now kind of coming back to to the SLB world, um, you know, I got two, two questions. I don't want to say quick questions, but two questions. One is what excites you the most about the future of SLB? Because not new, now it's been over a year, but we went from Schlumberger to SLB and to me there's a lot of excitement. But I'm curious what your excitement is. And then the other part is if you could share that excitement or give some advice to a future employee, what would that be?
Speaker 2:Sure, sure, I've been now 70 years with the company and I can openly say that in the last, I would say, three or four years I've been kind of reinvigorated by the, by the direction the company has taken. You know, when it comes to to our role in the energy transition, I, I I believe that there is a, there is a demand for energy that needs to be supplied in different ways. You know we have our, have our more legacy or common ways of finding that energy. But the reality is we have embarked on this transition journey and the way the company has decided to go on that journey really, really inspires me. I see it every day in our technology discussions. There's always room to see how we can accelerate that transition with business models and incentives that make sense, and that really, really, really, really, as I mentioned, kind of invigorates me to come to work and I think that is also landing in the younger talents and the younger generations. You know it's all about your purpose.
Speaker 1:Yeah, younger generations.
Speaker 2:You know it's all about your purpose. Yeah, is is. We are positioned in in a fantastic way to make a difference from the, from the inside, and and, and that's that's what inspires me today.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Very cool. Yeah, yeah, that that same. I mean the the um for me, I would say. I mean the energy transition part is very cool in the new energy. I'm not sure if I'll ever get the opportunity to work in the new energy group, but I mean maybe we all will someday soon. But the digital aspect for me is also very exciting the trilemma, I think they call it, in providing the energy security to the world in a sustainable manner. But the advances on digital, well, so exciting.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, everything you said is so real and so true. I mean, it's really been an exciting few.
Speaker 2:I think, hunter, if I could add to, what really inspires me is obviously the journey right Of transition from a technology, digital sustainability, operational, operational integrity All of our attributes are kind of add up and help us to accelerate the industry and make it happen. But the reality is that the breadth of the company you know, you see it every day. You're going to an office, to the office, or you're going to a room and you're sitting with seven different nationalities, you know, and they've been in four different countries or in their own country, but they've been around and they're very seasoned and when you see their perspectives and you get the full picture, I value that a lot. I value the perspectives and the diversity of ideas that SLB has with our people and I think that by interchanging and discussing and brainstorming different perspectives, we're going to get there faster and I can tell you, I think it's very unique. I think it's very unique.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely agree there. And then I guess the last question for you is just for someone new in their career, whether it's at SLB or otherwise, do you have any parting advice that you think could help them? Uh, you know, in their, in their start of their career, Uh, can you repeat the question?
Speaker 2:Hunter, I broke down for a second Hold on. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Um, basically, if, if you could give any piece of advice to someone starting off in their career, what, what would that be?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I definitely can Be fair Be fair.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, try to be as fair as possible with your colleagues, with your customers, with your contractors. Be as objective as you can. You know, the younger you are not necessarily all the time, but the emotions play an important role, because we're vicious, we're full of energy, we want to make things happen. We get impatient, right yeah, make sure that you drive things, because I think that's patient, right? Yeah, make sure that you drive things. I think that's what our recruitment team, our talent management team, do the most. We find the best people where we work. But think about the long run. It's not a 100 meters race, it's a marathon, and if you treat people fairly, you will get what you need in an easier and faster way. That would be my advice.
Speaker 1:Love it, perfect. Yeah, that's good, not just at work, but also outside of life in general. I appreciate it Absolutely. Yeah, juan, I really appreciate the time today and the time with answering my questions outside of life in general. So I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, juan, I really appreciate the time today and the time with with you know, answering my questions and sharing more about your, your career and life in general. But before you go, I'd like to ask you a few fun facts, if that's all right. Sure, sure Shoot. Okay, perfect, all right. What's your favorite food? Ceviche, ceviche. Yeah, any popular places here in Houston area?
Speaker 2:There are a couple, but I'm spoiled man. I tasted ceviche in the north of Peru, in Talara yeah, in Talara yeah. Go to Lima, go to Peru your next vacation and go and taste ceviche there, if you can. If you cannot, there are plenty of options in Houston that are good as well, but it's just a huge difference you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, all right, I'll have to convince Hayley. When you go to the coffee shop, what is your coffee order?
Speaker 2:I'm super simple Black, no sugar, brewed Always.
Speaker 1:Perfect, that's my order as well, although I have been dabbling in espresso as well. If you could go on vacation tomorrow, would you go to the beach or mountains?
Speaker 2:Mountains, mountains.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cool, very decisive Cool. If you can meet any famous person, who would that be?
Speaker 2:If I could meet, that would likely be. Wow, that's a good question, and the UN president basically.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's good, that's a good one. Probably very interesting uh person to meet. Um, and finally, if you could recommend any book, uh, what? What book would you recommend? Or podcast?
Speaker 2:Island beneath the sea by Isabel Agenda is is one of my favorites, Very cool.
Speaker 1:Awesome. Well, I appreciate it, juan. Thanks for the time today and, yeah, looking forward to seeing you around more this year and continuing the discussion.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much, hunter. Thank you for doing this. This is a great initiative. Keep them coming, and I'm very happy and grateful for the opportunity, definitely.
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